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- From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: Iomega ZIP drive and AFS
- Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:29:06 GMT
- Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
- Message-ID: <4hfuc2$ovs@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
- References: <4ha8n7$8u2@sdaw04.seinf.abb.se> <4hc4en$lfa@gordon.enea.se> <4hcvgu$k9o@sdaw04.seinf.abb.se>
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- In article <4hcvgu$k9o@sdaw04.seinf.abb.se>,
- Johan H÷gberg <johan.hogberg@senet.abb.se> wrote:
- >In article <4hc4en$lfa@gordon.enea.se>, olli@enea.se says...
- >>
- >>Johan H÷gberg wrote:
- >>
- >>> When formatting a ZIP with AFS file system (AmiFileSafe) 88MB
- >>> becomes free.
- >>> When formatting a ZIP with FFS file system 95MB becomes free.
- >>>
- >>> The 95MB value is verified and true. 94 files of each 1024*1024
- >>> bytes was copied into 10 directories. After that there was
- >>> still 0.5MB free.
- >>>
- >>> But with AFS 88MB is reported and it would seem strange
- >>> that 95MB would fit when 88MB is reported.
- >>>
- >>> Anyone familiar with this problem? Anyone having a clue?
- >>
- >>Not a total answer to your question, but maybe a step in the right
- >>direction. As I have gathered from information on the AFS mailing
- >>list AFS reserves a fixed part of the disk when formatting it. This
- >>part of the disk is used for directory and file headers. If you only
- >>have a few large files on your disk much of this space will be unused
- >>(wasted?). For now the amount of header space is a fixed fraction of the
- >>total disk/partition size and cannot be configured. FFS manages disk space
- >>in a very different way and current disk info programs calculate disk info
- >>data according to the FFS algorithm which is not very proper for AFS disks.
- >>
- >>Disclaimer: all this information could be my delirious phantasies.
-
- AFS reserves something around 5% of the diskspace, according to the docs,
- for various managment purposes. For fairly extreme uses of diskspace, such
- as a million microscopic files or a handful of huge files, this makes less
- than optimum use of the total diskspace, but for most typical uses, the 5%
- overhead is less than what FFS would dynamically use up as it goes along.
-
-
- >The question is however then: How many files shall be written until this fixed
- >area gets filled? And what happens after that?
-
- Disk full. This would only happen if you save a million tiny files, which
- is probably not very representative of how diskspace is used in most cases.
- Maybe future versions of AFS will be able to adjust dynamically to this,
- allocating such "reserved" areas in increments of 1% of the diskspace as
- needed (but that might affect performance again.)
-
-
- >This fixed area is then 95-88 = 7MB of diskspace. This means that there is no point
- >in making HD partitions less or equal to 7MB.
-
- See above; according to the docs, the reserved space is ~5% of total space;
- various reasons may have pushed this from ~5MB to 7MB in your case. Maybe
- the 5% figure is a rough approximation, a rule of thumb, if you will.
-
- |._.|_ Udo Schuermann "The future's not what it used to be!"
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